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Message 1600 - Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 21:14:06 UTC - in response to Message 1594.

Since I'm getting to old to Comprehend all this Badge Scheming I take it I'd go from Steve's the 1'st to reach the maximum Stars to Steve doesn't have Squat anymore & isn't even close to the maximum level. I suppose the Project will have to retract it's Statement then ... :P ... 5 Stars Forward & 4 Stars backwards, great plan, about the way BOINC runs anyway so might as well go with it ...


You'd go from "Steve's the first to max out the badges" to being able to say "I did so much work that they actually had to increase the badge system because of me.", and you would still have been the first person to hit the originally badge limit. Additionally, you'd have the opportunity to increase your list of "firsts" with the increased badge schematic.

If the badge system wasn't increased, in a year or two you'd be "Steve was the first to max out the badges, and is now one of about 200".

Personally I'd prefer the first one.

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Message 1605 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 5:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 1591.

No-one is going to get 260 apps for a long time. There's barely even 150 non-alpha apps that you can reliably get to 100 hours, let alone several thousand. I wouldn't mind the fifth star being somewhere around 150 (if it wasn't for the badge removal issue I mentioned earlier), but I feel like the best way to accommodate for the increase in apps is to just add more stars when there's actually enough apps to get them. Having badges that are literally impossible to achieve is a bad idea.


Be careful about statements like this, zombie67 already has 160+ apps at bronze level or better. And while I don't have the hours on many of the apps for badge level, I am at 155 apps with hours. I will not guess on how soon someone will have 260+ apps at 100 hours but I don't think it will be a "long time".

The users are asking for a solution that scales to higher levels of hours and to higher counts of apps. The circled stars seems to answer the higher levels of hours. It may have already been mentioned but why not just give people a second, third, etc. badge as the app count increases. Then we don't have to worry about a cap on number of apps the badge system can handle.

So for example zombie67 would have two badges . Note one star in the first badge would be replaced by . Based on his description of hours STE\/E would have very similar badges.


But really what we need is an indication of the Admin's plans to wrap this discussion up.
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Message 1608 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013, 17:08:18 UTC - in response to Message 1605.


Be careful about statements like this, zombie67 already has 160+ apps at bronze level or better. And while I don't have the hours on many of the apps for badge level, I am at 155 apps with hours. I will not guess on how soon someone will have 260+ apps at 100 hours but I don't think it will be a "long time".


There is a MASSIVE difference between getting an alpha app to 100 hours and getting it to 5,000+ hours. You could generally get the former pretty easily, but no way are you getting 5,000 hours on a project that only has a dozen work units a week.

I'd personally much rather having 5 Sapphire stars than 5 Sapphire stars and a single bronze star that's literally impossible to get to silver because all the apps in that range have ended.

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Message 1611 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 16:58:38 UTC - in response to Message 1608.

I'd personally much rather having 5 Sapphire stars than 5 Sapphire stars and a single bronze star that's literally impossible to get to silver because all the apps in that range have ended.


Projects come and go...that is the nature of Boinc.

I like the proposed new badge progression. Will my 5th star ever become sapphire, I doubt it. But I also doubt I will make the highest badge for any of the projects that I participate in. I like getting badges, I also like having something to strive for.

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Message 1612 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 19:37:41 UTC

This weekend, I will add four additional colors:

10 000 hours
25 000 hours
50 000 hours
100 000 hours

I like the idea of a second badge. But the badges should be different. Maybe replacing the stars with another pattern. Do you have any suggestions?[/img]
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Message 1613 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 23:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 1612.
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This weekend, I will add four additional colors:

10 000 hours
25 000 hours
50 000 hours
100 000 hours

I like the idea of a second badge. But the badges should be different. Maybe replacing the stars with another pattern. Do you have any suggestions?[/img]

Good to know you are taking an interest and plan to move forward with something. The new stars are bright. You could still change from stars to something else (if need be) - I don't think anyone would particularly care if it was a star or a diamond or a hexagon...

Phases of the moon, the moon the planets and the sun (100Kh), different types of sun, elements, primes, seasons, shapes (triangle, square, circle...), symbols (- + / * ? !), electron transition phases, smiley faces... Did we not already cover this?

I take it you are not keen on the 10apps, 20apps, 30apps suggestion...?
Fair enough, it's your show - we can only ebb with the flow - over to you...

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Message 1614 - Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 9:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1613.

I like the idea of additional symbols being a different shape, that way the second badge is instantly distinguishable from the first. I think pentagons would be a good choice; they're pretty much the opposite of the 5-pointed stars we're using now.

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Message 1615 - Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 14:15:56 UTC

Was instantly excited that I had two projects turn pink! Haha. Ste\/e and Zombie pushing the ceiling higher. :)

Glad to see higher limits, and this system is great for ALL projects as it keeps those of us working on WUProp stars spread out across the sea of projects and not just on the high returning ones.

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Message 1616 - Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 19:54:15 UTC
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Wow, I really wish I could see the individual hours for Shaman :)


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Message 1617 - Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 22:42:37 UTC

The stat sites need to know the new colors have been added.

Also, thanks for adding them.


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Message 1618 - Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 11:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 1612.
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This weekend, I will add four additional colors:

10 000 hours
25 000 hours
50 000 hours
100 000 hours

I like the idea of a second badge. But the badges should be different. Maybe replacing the stars with another pattern. Do you have any suggestions?[/img]


Just looking at your names for the new badges and I thought they could do with something a bit extra;

Instead of

Magenta for 10,000 hours you could use Garnet or Spinel

Lime for 25,000 hours could be Jade

Cyan for 50,000 hours could be Turquoise

Purple for 100,000 hours could be Amethyst

I think they should be changed as changing from just a colour to a Gemstone will continue on with the Precious/Semi-Precious Gemstones (after Emerald, Ruby and Sapphire) and are a goal to aim for.

Thanks for you efforts in this Sebastien

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Message 1619 - Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 18:35:02 UTC - in response to Message 1616.

Wow, I really wish I could see the individual hours for Shaman :)



So do I, that's insane. I think that has to put him above even STE\/E and zombie.

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Message 1620 - Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 1:10:45 UTC

[AF>WildWildWest]Sebastien,could we get the ruby or bronze changed to a different shade? I find it hard to distinguish them on some screens.
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Message 1621 - Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 3:29:21 UTC

Ruby being changed to a more vivid red would be nice, they look similar on my laptop, too.

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Message 1628 - Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 23:44:57 UTC

I agree with the others about tweaking the colors for the additional levels. Kind of tough on my screen to tell that my first star is for 10,000 and my second one for 1,000. :)

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