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Chris, you do have an argument but you've struggled with the comebacks, missed some valid points and presented some weak opinions. | |
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skgiven, | |
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skgiven, your points are exactly what others do argue especially the ever so ongoing debate at WCG. I'm on the side that says that crunching 1 wu does not entitle you to the badge. I am a believer that everyone should actually earn the badges that were created. I don't believe in this t-ball mentality. For those outside the USA t-ball is basically an early childish version of American baseball where they put the ball on a stick for the kid to swing at. Every kid gets a turn. Every kid gets a trophy. No kids experience a loss. And many people are now seeing that kids growing up with that type of mentality struggle with failures later in life as they don't tend to learn the basic skills of coping with failure. I don't believe everyone should get a trophy just for showing up. We already have very easy and attainable badges. We don't need something just handed to you for attaching in the first place. Just like at WCG where you have to have 14 days of run time, here you should still put your time in as it is designed. | |
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I'm still on the fence UBT - Chris about the "second" set of stars idea as it is already a bit late. Some are already pushing a 3rd set. At this point it is kinda the wrong direction to head but rather maybe adjusting the current one as had been suggestion in other threads to accompany more stars or something entirely different. For example: WCG recently changed theirs from just changing colors to adding 5, 10, etc... on a generic white background badge to indicate larger levels. Perhaps a system more along those lines would be better used. I'm not sure how adding a number would fit in conjunction with the stars and colors, but it may be better long term in some way. Maybe just give everyone up to 5 stars (5 badges) and put a number of how many of each has been obtained. Not saying that is a great idea in the first place, but an option needs to have long term built into it as systems just keep getting more and more powerful. | |
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I won't add badges for total hours or credit. | |
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Sebastien, I think the modifications to show the badges with a "star number" in the design is great and allows for more up to 9 or 10 if ever needed. | |
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I won't add badges for total hours or credit. I think having the expanded ("double" or "triple") badges would be great. But those number (1, 2, etc) are a bit cluttered. In my case a simple: would do just fine. [But they should be squeezed a little closer together :-) ] ____________ | |
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I won't add badges for total hours or credit. I agree, just the addition of another badge (Or more if applicable) would suffice, the numbers make it look like I don't know what but not a good look to me ... :) ____________ https://signature.statseb.fr/sig-1323.png https://stats.free-dc.org/badgesbanner.php?cpid=13a87c3a303bcdca4ba0ed600daebb6b | |
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Though the numbers feel more like a change, I don't think they are necessary if you are adding multiple clusters of stars. No matter how you look at it, you only have so many bronze, so many silver, so many gold, etc... If numbers are used, it should be to reduce badge replication in some way. That is why I mentioned giving everyone a single star for each level they have obtained and then put a number inside it indicating how many of those they have. | |
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I don't agree with additional badges, but rather the extension of the one we already have. Just show the first, then roll (like a dice; one icon per face) to the 2nd side of the badge, 3rd, 4th... | |
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This is what I meant, albeit for WCG, | |
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If numbers are used, it should be to reduce badge replication in some way. That is why I mentioned giving everyone a single star for each level they have obtained and then put a number inside it indicating how many of those they have. That is a perfect idea, other than the problem that you could have 20 of the first 5 badge levels, then your badge would be full, thus creating the problem again - I think that your idea would work, as well as multiple badges - having more than one badge isn't a bad thing, I mean - look at POGS: http://signature.statseb.fr/index.py?badge=169, but something should be done, or any extra app's hours will be "wasted". I use the term wasted quite loosely, because the hours will a) still contribute to your total hours; and b) help out the app/project in question... ____________ | |
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I won't add badges for total hours or credit. Ste\/e's 12 stars squeezed together, | |
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The scrolling through idea would work - they key is that we want to be able to display more than 5 badges... | |
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I don't know how we got off on adding in more stars, numbers, etc. But, all I was aiming at was a way to reflect the total hours we all have put into Boinc projects. You can find a large selection of websites and forum signatures that will tell you how many total credits you have. I don't know of any where else that actually keeps track of the hours of computer time you put into a project. If some one knows of such a website that tracks hours please link it. | |
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I like that idea, Khali, and I suppose it might be possible for Seb (the person who runs http://signature.statseb.fr/) to get an xml export file from WUProp, so the total hours can be displayed on your signature (therefore, if you didn't want to show your total hours, you wouldn't have to). | |
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I don't know of any where else that actually keeps track of the hours of computer time you put into a project. If some one knows of such a website that tracks hours please link it. There is a project that does just that, but only for itself - World Community Grid (WCG); they record your overall Total Run Time, Points Generated and the number of Results Returned. This is what I have,
Points Generated (Rank) 121,485,557 (#860) Results Returned (Rank) 244,326 (#817) WCG also records how many hours you contribute to each sub-project they have.
Outsmart Ebola Together 446,550 1,829 0:103:20:02:19 Uncovering Genome Mysteries 2,664,695 4,167 1:298:03:43:12 Mapping Cancer Markers 7,712,271 10,346 5:250:14:24:25 Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 7,621,288 7,335 5:073:15:24:51 FightAIDS@Home 10,506,992 17,780 11:138:03:42:51 Beta Testing 1,141,865 2,225 1:100:11:04:26 Comp. 4 Sustainable Water 2,559,812 5,977 2:038:16:07:58 Say No to Schistosoma 3,497,860 5,676 3:257:09:53:05 GO Fight Against Malaria 3,674,912 4,573 3:292:03:27:04 Drug Search for Leishmaniasis 3,577,094 3,928 3:345:02:20:37 Computing for Clean Water 5,265,786 11,976 5:065:21:38:27 Discv. Dengue Drugs Phase 2 2,030,991 6,350 2:021:13:02:34 Cure Muscular Dystrophy P2 16,124,269 50,335 20:178:23:35:36 Influenza Antiviral Drug Search 1,251,141 1,964 1:107:14:02:51 Help Fight Childhood Cancer 21,426,201 26,111 24:218:13:11:51 The Clean Energy Project 824,733 933 0:318:06:45:43 Nutritious Rice for the World 4,368,466 6,179 5:004:10:09:34 Help Conquer Cancer 17,092,736 63,216 14:087:19:37:34 AfricanClimate@Home 1,058 2 0:000:11:15:26 Discovering Dengue Drugs 524,994 1,084 0:196:05:59:44 Genome Comparison 4,192 41 0:002:07:59:08 Human Proteome Folding 2 9,167,651 12,299 10:021:15:43:42 WCG existed before WUProp and long before WUProp had any badges, so anyone who accumulated lots of credits for WCG years ago doesn't get them displayed here - WUProp does not retroactively display contribution, which is fare enough as WUProp is really a stats project that provides info about systems and performance per app that the WUProp App HAS SEEN. | |
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Skgiven, I am well aware of WCG and how it tracks hours. I run WCG from time to time. It's not my major focus generally but I do and am running the projects they offer. But that is the only project I know of that even pays attention to compute hours. The vast majority of Boinc projects track points only. | |
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Well WCG also isn't breaking the run time down per app on their site either. However, yes they are the only project reporting the run times as described above. | |
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Could Seb create an xml and then put it on his signature site, so that (if you wanted), you could display your total hours in a similar way to the UoTD count? If he could, I would like that. | |
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