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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 6051)
Posted 15 Mar 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
I just add WUProp to my Androids by using BOINCStats BAM!. Works every time and is really simple.
2) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 6041)
Posted 9 Mar 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
Anyhow, you do realize that even if you had every boinc project on one client, you only need one WUProp account.


Yes you only need one account. That isn't what is being discussed. What is being discussed is that people were running multiple instances of WUProp work units. What is happening is that people wanted all of their runtime hours to count. And I honestly don't think it picks up all of the clients with the one work unit.

So, if I have a rig with 250 clients running (which I do). Each of those clients have 4 work units that are Non-CPU intensive each. I would therefore be running 1,000 work units on that host. I look at my times here, and it shows me with a total of ~700 runtime hours for the day. That is across all hosts I have whether physical or virtual. So, I'm not positive if WUProp was crediting them based on the actual CPU time used or wall clock, but I think people were trying to guarantee they got all the runtime hours rather than just WUProp points. I'm thinking it was based off of wall clock because looking at the numbers, it would line up with total number of physical and virtual hosts rather than total number of clients actually ran in my case.
3) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 6011)
Posted 24 Feb 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
Please tell me what "science" Grid Computing Center/Goofyx is doing?

Trying to find out if a monkey can type "Christmas" (app V2/V4) and how long it will take? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
Please!
Even if I'm also running this project for badges, I wouldn't define it as Science.


You answered your own question within your own definition that differs from most dictionaries. One cannot realistically argue that.
4) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 6009)
Posted 24 Feb 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
I find that the results produced by this project are only a best guess anyways. It does not tell me if someone overclocked their CPU. It does not tell me if they ran multiple work units on each device which can impact its results. Running multiple work units on a video card is no different than running multiple clients for NCI projects. Why? because by your logic they are following those same rules. It doesn't matter if they are cpu intense or not. Every project stresses the system different. They run different. They use different resources. If maximizing my GPU to its fullest is ok by running multiple work units then I should be able to the same on my CPU. Regardless of CPU intensive levels. That isn't cheating. That is utilizing your hardware to its fullest for the sake of the project. Yes it is something point seakers look at. But it is something people who want to maximize their resources look at as well. Who are you to determine that something like that is "cheating". What gives you that right? "Science" was performed and was not "faked". WUProp may not be able to report the way it wants to. But it never has been fully accurate since the beginning. And it never will be unless it can gain all of those individual system difference. Even then, it would be too much data to filter through.
5) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 6008)
Posted 24 Feb 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
I think Seb (who is the only person to develop and maintain and support the project since the beginning) has been really affected by the aggressiveness of some users here and the continuous effort he had to produce in order to avoid cheaters to produce fake data into WUProp (just so they can get more stars maybe ? I'm not even sure I understood why there were doing this actually) and after posting some warnings here, he just gave up... which is sad and terrible. Because, you understand it well, nobody will be able to replace him on this project.

At the end we (at l'AF) will accept his choice anyway, we are just really sad about it, and don't loose hope that he may reconsider his decision in the future.


What fake data? The results are typically legit. The work units were ran and unaltered. The data got reported. How is that fake results? What you should be saying is that people weren't running projects the way a very small group of individuals think they should run them and label it as "cheating". Again, that concept is only in the minds of few as the results are no different from anyone else's results. Cheating is when someone doesn't do the work but still claims the credit.
6) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 5924)
Posted 20 Jan 2018 by Profile Coleslaw
Should we expect to see the GCC times and stat's removed from WuProp soon ?

Bill F


I hope not, as I would lose my only light blue applications (over 50,000 hours, I only have 2) and I have only been running what the project originally set up (4 apps (v1,v2,v3,v4 per computer), as I never worked out how you can run multiple instances of BOINC Client, I haven't bothered to try and change anything.
Other people change things, but I get nervous.
So I just follow the rules.

I still have a lot of hours clocked up that I would not want to lose, it has taken me a long time to accrue those hours.

Conan


https://hardforum.com/threads/goofyxgrid-multi-client-setup.1924298/
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Please remove "CompositeGrid" from your database (Message 5797)
Posted 3 Dec 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
I was just about to ask if Charity Engine was able to be attached to a client. It won't attach for me with user or email.


You have to use the Charity Engine Client to attach, I haven't been attached to them for quit awhile now because they seem to try & take over your BOINC Client so I avoid them now.


Email confirmation said the BOINC client could be used.

Looks like it's not attached as a project but as an account manager. It seems to not be it's own project but just sends work from other projects? If it wasn't in the BOINC client how would WUProp monitor it?

http://www.charityengine.com/node/792


Don't know, I know I had to use their client to run the project when I ran it, haven't run it in a few years so things may have changed since I ran it ...


Since pretty much day one, CharityEngine allowed people to use the BOINC client by merely using it as the account manager. I had never used their client. And yes, this is how WUProp gets the info unless there was some oddity where WUProp was in the BOINC client also pulling from another clients info. If that is the case, then would be a huge privacy concern...
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing hours (Message 5793)
Posted 3 Dec 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
Has anyone else lost hours for charity engine?

423 Charity Engine ce7-pub-beta 0.00 -435.32

Not quite sure how I could have negative hours....
9) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 5556)
Posted 22 Aug 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
WCG has a new sub project called - Microbiome Immunity Project!
10) Message boards : Number crunching : QCN Continual hours lost (Message 5507)
Posted 1 Aug 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
Run time hours are not affected here by the projects doing backups/losses/etc... They are collected by the WUProp application and tallied here. If it were points being listed on a stats site, then yes that could change things. But the run time hours collected here not so much.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : QCN Continual hours lost (Message 5502)
Posted 31 Jul 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
Unfortunately the one system on my list without a sensor was given away a long time ago but allowed to leave BOINC on it. However, those projects were manually added a very long time ago and unable to be pulled with BAM!. So, are you saying that host was responsible for the loss of 20k hours on both those QCN projects?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : QCN Continual hours lost (Message 5493)
Posted 30 Jul 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
I had quite a few hours pulled as well. And they were not from multi-clients as suggested by the admin during his latest crusade. The badges hold little merit these days.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge downgrade thread! (Message 5456)
Posted 18 Jul 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
yeah... I just saw a couple of the QCN applications lose ~ 22K hours. I haven't ran them a lot for a long time but I have multiple Android devices that did return valid work. I'm wondering why it was that amount of hours that was chosen... For what it is worth, I still run QCN even without it giving credits. This project is turning into a biased joke in my eyes.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : More merger proposals (Message 5305)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
Dirk, I am agreeing that they should be merged and not split. I was using a bit of sarcasm about the current banter about not merging goofy/GCC and LHC applications.

CSG had all of its apps merged with the former independent projects, and so these complainers should have complained back then.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : More merger proposals (Message 5301)
Posted 1 Jul 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
I guess we better go back in time and split CSG from Wildlife, Subsetsum, and DNA...
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge downgrade thread! (Message 5294)
Posted 30 Jun 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
I see no real problem with this merger. For accuracy sake, it should be merged due to being the same app from the same admin with the same goals.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 5034)
Posted 6 May 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
The obvious answer is that they think people are using this listing to identify which Pentathlon projects they are focusing on and what they are "bunkering". More than likely will return within a few weeks.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 4892)
Posted 29 Mar 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
First star went purple and second star went teal

Star seven went blue and star nine went green
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 4787)
Posted 7 Mar 2017 by Profile Coleslaw
I now have 15 stars
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 4126)
Posted 9 Aug 2016 by Profile Coleslaw
Yup... star 14


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