Posted 29 days ago by
marmot
Thanks everyone, hope they are OK.
I need to re-think how I present the data, it is taking too long the way I am doing it at the moment, but glad you all like what I have done.
Thanks again
Conan
Appreciate all the hard work, Conan.
Lot of love for statistics.
What about a spreadsheet and drop in an image here?
I use LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet to keep data sets on performance of various WU's and wouldn't mind helping.
Ethercalc or Baserow offer real time collaboration and Ethercalc allows multiple users at once.
Congratz to everyone's hard work.
WuProps hunters are a boon to new projects ability to attract machines.
We're the pioneer weeds on fresh basalt.
Didn't realize I made so much progress.
That Short SiDock app is waiting on putting postmarketOS on an Amazon Fire...
And boooo to climateprediction.net for no app selection!!!
Posted 29 days ago by
marmot
I'm just glad the project is still with us.
Is there a Patreon donation link?
Posted 24 Apr 2023 by
marmot
Ithena Computational has 15k Hex WU's up.
I have 5000+ hours on that WU and still not broken 50k credit.
Very small credit per hour.
Posted 24 Apr 2023 by
marmot
This is probably better posted at PrimeGrid forums but it's also relevant here:
The Cullen/Woodall (Sieve), as GPU apps go, has really nice characteristics.
Been stress testing them on an EVGA GTX 1060 and an TriX R9-280x.
They use about 0.02 CPU each on 16 thread 2700x, which is bare minimum.
It seems they move into VRAM a shared set of libraries amounting to about 200MB, then each WU needs about 75MB per.
These WU do drain more power on both cards at identical Afterburner settings (85W ave vs 41W for Milkyway on the 280x).
Posted 24 Apr 2023 by
marmot
Rosetta has 4500+ Rosetta Beta tasks, and that's ALL they have right now so if you want your hours now is the time to jump on them!!
mikey
I was at work, damn. Maybe some more will get dumped. Thanks for the heads up
Posted 23 Apr 2023 by
marmot
Question for Michael Goetz:
Is Composite Grid exporting to Free-DC?
The website has me with 3.9m credit, but I don't have evidence of ever doing a WU for dev.primegrid.com, so guessing that you cloned the main site to the dev site and got my credit from my prior history?
I don't see a setting for exporting results.
EDIT:
Looked at the Free-DC All Projects page and don't see Composite Grid in archived or current so guessing no export or I'm not using that section correctly.
https://stats.free-dc.org/index/#boinc_projects
Posted 23 Apr 2023 by
marmot
Anybody know why GoofyX Monkeys v1 is showing as active? I don't see anything in the auto news about it being active.
Active or not active depends on whether there's been recently run tasks in that app, as reported by the WUProp tasks.
That leaves just two possibilities:
1) A bug at WUProp. I consider this unlikely since it's only affecting that one app.
2) Somebody, somewhere, either restored a backup of their BOINC directory, or booted a long-inactive disk drive which havened to have a BOINC installation that was running GoofyxGrid. When BOINC started up, it resumed running the long-orphaned task, which the next WUProp task reported to the server. The server then marked the application as active.
There's problems with both theories. Pick whichever one you like best.
Might have been me.
I was building a Windows X BOINC VM and decided to start up an old version of my AntiX Linux VM and also a laptop HD cloned into a VM called 'Games' that I made for things like Black n White or NWN v1.
If not me, I'd still choose option 2.
Posted 1 Apr 2023 by
marmot
most of the hours recently are me, though i'm not the only one (which i assume is why hours actually count here)
but server is currently down and i'm waiting for another attempt.
this is run by the person who runs parlea
and i found it from the BOINCnetwork discord
i will post here once it is running again
They tried some BOINC2Docker WU's from the Parlea server and they had issues.
Guess they started a test bed.
Thanks for the heads up.
Can we get an account now while before the WU's flow?
Posted 31 Mar 2023 by
marmot
The login page been giving me a "ooops that page can't be found" error the last 2 days.
The HTTPS isn't working and the Linux VM spitting or a certificate error.
Anyone else having an issue?
Posted 31 Mar 2023 by
marmot
Was going to ask the same thing.
Looks like someone setup a BOINC server without even a name and is playing with BOINC2Docker.
Anyone can setup a local BOINC2Docker as a means to run a Linux environment.
Was going to try that if the WSL on that older machine flopped.
Newapps found it because it reported results to Free-DC?
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by
marmot
To run WuProp on WSL, you have to create a file named app_config.xml.
<app_config> <app_version> <app_name>data_collect_v4</app_name> <plan_class>nci</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.01</avg_ncpus> <cmdline>-p 31422</cmdline> </app_version> </app_config>
Replace 31422 by the GUI RPC port number used in WSL.
I slept on it and was fixing breakfast, wondering if there was a command line to communicate WUProp the proper port. Did an app_config.xml for WUProp years back and just remembering it after reading your post.
Thanks.
Damn, the default forum search on here is 30 days.
If you do advanced search: unlimited then this question has been answered many times.
EDIT:
Ah geesh, here is my past self having the same question in 2015:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/forum_thread.php?id=374&postid=3560#3560
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by
marmot
Turning off <allow_remote_rpc_gui> brings back:
pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci
lspci: Cannot find any working access method.
It still tries to watch over the Windows apps:
03:22:13 (1499): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: https://www.sidock.si/sidock/
03:22:13 (1499): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: http://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
03:22:13 (1499): Erreur assignation user_friendly_name (node app) - app_name:
And then reports it can't connect to 3 diff localhosts ports:
04:21:14 (1499): can't connect to localhost04:21:14 (1499): Erreur reception active_result
04:22:14 (1499): can't connect to localhost04:22:14 (1499): Erreur reception cc_status
04:22:45 (1499): Mise en veille (derniere requete date de moins de 30 secondes
04:22:45 (1499): can't connect to localhost04:22:45 (1499): Erreur reception result (new WU)
04:22:45 (1499): called boinc_finish(0)
IDK how to fix this.
Guess the AntiX BOINC needs to upgrade or a fresh Linux install somewhere, if I find some time today.
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by
marmot
The error changed now that BOINC is started with 'sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client start'.
The WUProp WU running under WSL is attempting to track the Windows BOINC client WU's. I reset WUProp in the WSL and changed the RPC port. The WUProp WU running under Windows BOINC client does not see the Gerasim (Linux) hours and is functioning like it was.
Here's the errors (I think they are all WU's running under Windows client):
<core_client_version>7.18.1</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
pp) - app_name:
02:21:58 (1327): Erreur assignation user_friendly_name (node app) - app_name:
02:21:58 (1327): Erreur assignation user_friendly_name (node app) - app_name:
02:22:58 (1327): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: https://www.sidock.si/sidock/
02:22:58 (1327): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: https://www.sidock.si/sidock/
02:22:58 (1327): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: http://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
02:22:58 (1327): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: http://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
02:22:58 (1327): Erreur assignation project_name (node result) - project_url: http://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by
marmot
When I google the pcilib error most contain something around Raspbian.
Why WSL 1 vs WSL 2?
Turned off a lot of services, including Windows Update and the store, also it's Windows 18363.1556. I was planning on just wiping the OS drive and installing Linux but it's a badge hunter, with an AMD and NVidia card, so Windows + WSL2 is going to be the best choice, eventually.
Breaking things or taking the manual route can improve your skills. Things I learned that maybe could help someone else here:
1) You can Unzip the Linux.appx or Linux.AppBundle packages and install manually.
2) There are X servers for Windows (XMing is one) that let the WSL communicate with the display. In WSL BASH type 'export DISPLAY=:0' to send video output to the Windows X Server.
3) Windows File Manager can read the rootfs folder but even an admin can't always move Linux files (Like cc_config.xml) and, if you do, the permissions can get scrambled.
4) I found PCmanFM File Manager for KDE(?), installed it and was using in on the Windows X server. It successfully moved the xml BOINC config files out of /mnt/c/wondows/system32 to /var/lib/boinc-client where they belonged. Windows built in File Manager acted like they were moved but they were still there.
(I have some numb fingers and arthritis so command prompt typing errors slow me down.)
5) I completely forgot the Debian inet.d method of starting apps. Now I start BOINC with 'sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client start' and the data folders are now properly placed.
6) Edited the boinc-client script in /etc/init.d with a decent Linux editor named Geany to add --gui_rpc_port 31414 so the WSl client had a different port.
7) Learned that Windows Notepad or 3rd party app, Notepad++, change the permissions of script files in the rootfs so they no longer execute...
8) Used PCmanFM to correct the boinc-client script permissions (nice product).
9) Never seriously used BoincTasks, but faced with two BOINC clients on one machine, d/led it and spent 2 hours learning to use it.
10) had to hunt down the correct gui_rpc_auth.cfg client passwords so that BoincTasks can log in.
11) BoincTasks showed how many BOINC clients are advertising theirselves on my network. Should have been none. I'll try using BoincTasks for central management later. Maybe it can manage the BOINC clients that or contained within VM's? Mikey and I were just discussing that.
12) Learned more about the BOINC Docker project and maybe I could have just ran Gerasim (Linux) in a Docker, or in the WSL, instead of developing my own Linux VM. Docker is a VM contained BOINC client and it can be managed by an external BOINC Manager or BoincTasks.
13) WUProps has some issues using the WSL (posting a new question about that in another post).
So, I went off the beaten path and learned a bunch of things. Worth it.
When I get to an WSL 2 install, I'll be able to contrast it to the things I learned on this WSL 1 experiment.
The first time I tried to monitor a client in WSL 2 on via BOINCTasks all on the same PC it was kinda finicky. WSL gave it some odd IP address but often BOINCTasks wouldn't monitor both the native client and the WSL client on the same PC. The last time I just used boinctui to view progress.
If you assign two different rpc_gui_port (add the --rpc_gui_port 31414 in init.d/boinc-client script BOINC_OPTS= string or in the Windows shortcut that starts the Windows BOINC client or in a Windows task schedule that start upon login) then that issue supposed to clear up. Has so far on mine. I also changed the WSL client name in cc_config.xml to NAME-WSL.
Maybe it's something different about the WSL 2 VM style that creates an alternate local IP. Port change still might help, IDK.
Posted 23 Mar 2023 by
marmot
No WU can validate because of this error:
<core_client_version>7.18.1</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
16:51:19 (1967): initialisation
pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci
lspci: Cannot find any working access method.
Made sure the <allow_remote_gui_rpc> is set to 1 but this is about permissions to access the pci dev.
Guess I could somehow sudo the WUProp or run from the root account; but it should work properly without those solutions.
I'm not a Linux expert and not sure what's wrong.
Maybe it's because I didn't give BOINC an explicit data folder and it made /mnt/c/Windows/System32 it's data folder? (strange choice)
At least I successfully manually (no Windows store) installed Ubuntu 22 LST into WSL 1 on Windows Pro 2019, gave Windows an XServer then successfully ran the Linux BOINC Mgr GUI to access the WSL BOINC client and got Gerasim (Linux) and WUProp running.
Proud of my Linux-ignorant self for doing that all in a night.
But I thought a single BOINC Manager could control WSL and native Windows WU's from the same port. Not that I'd be running two BOINC clients and two BOINC Mgrs; guess this is where BoincTasks shines.
I'll try moving the data folder and then maybe just install Ubuntu in a VM so I can get this Gerasim (Linux) done.
The AntiX BOINC 7.18.1 install went badly. The install sh script doesn't place the boinc executables in the usr/lib/boinc-client folder and fails to start from the home dir. It complains about gtk+ libraries that appear to be installed. More permissions issues? I'm weak at permissions troubleshooting.
Posted 21 Mar 2023 by
marmot
Warning, emotional content ahead:
So, my best friend, GF, off and on fiancé, Julie, had a heart attack Aug 8 and is gone. The months since then have been... hard.
She got me to install SETI@Home May 1999 while we shared our 1st apartment and bought the T-Shirts (in my closet).
I burned up one of our early Cyrix 686 CPU's while experimenting with OCing and Peltier heatsinking for SETI.
She was always so patient as I installed VM's and various BOINC projects on her personal laptops and they ran too hot for her lap.
She'd roll her eyes and say; "I can't sit this on my lap... " or "Can you get more speed back for 2nd Life?"
Inherited 6 of her 10 Amazon Fire tablets, 3 Fire TV's and an LG Phone.
They sit here mostly doing nothing ATM. (The phone is still logged into her FB and the last tablet still has her Amazon account with video faves and such. Preserving someone's thought patterns and memories in the digital age is odd, but way more achievable, compared to the past if a person didn't journal or write a memoir)
I hope she'd grudgingly approve, if not enthusiastically cheer, as I try to get Linux on her idle tablets.
End of emotional content.
The admin at SiDock said CurieMarieDock 0.2.0 short tasks were only for PIE and I was too busy to be skeptical 2 months back. Got some free time last week and found this article: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-smartphone-operating-systems/
postmarketOS appears to be the most heavily tested and developed Linux OS replacement for tablets and phones. Most of you probably already know about it, but here is the current list of success and models that have installed and booted:
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
You'll find the list of non-booters at the bottom.
Looks like all of Julie's Fire TV's are in that list. :(
As the weather warms, and I desire to keep BOINCing, getting many of these on Linux is upcoming project.
Also, LineageOS to replace 1 or more Android tablets OSes (maybe the 2 Vankyo 3GB 8 cores that bench as fast as an Amazon Fire 8 10th gen because Amazon cheeped out and didn't install lvl 2 cache).
Anyone else have experiences with postmarketOS?
Posted 21 Mar 2023 by
marmot
Thanks Mikey, Conan.
I had used the basic D/L page but, after your posts, searched harder and found this d/l page (forgot about this page): https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
Will try to get AntiX Linux VM to install that 7.16.6 ver sometime this week.
The WSL precursor libraries installed successfully on my 2700x box (can't just restart it anytime I wish with SiDock Long not properly checkpointing) and Ubuntu looks like easiest WSL Unix to choose since BOINC 7.16.6 is meant for it.
But, I was hoping to try the Alpine Linux distro for WSL since it's the basis for postmarketOS linux that is successfully running on a whole lot of ARM cell phones and tablets.
Posted 17 Mar 2023 by
marmot
The BOINC Mgr actually disconnects, turns grey, says it's attempting to connect to the client every time I try to get Linux Gerasim WU's. Very strange. The logs complain about a missing [/xml] bracket IIRC
Yes I found that on a machine with the recommended BOINC version from the BOINC website, 7.4.25 I think it is and it does the same thing with Gerasim, restarting BOINC or the Manager (I am not sure which) every time I click on something to do with Gerasim, such as highlighting it to do an update.
The screen goes black BOINC disappears then a short time later comes back but it has restarted the Client as well as the Manager as some work units start again from scratch.
Thanks for confirming my issues.
Yeah, BOINC d/l is 7.4.22 so the 7.6.33 I have is a beta and, seemingly, latest for native Linux OS x64.
So the versions that are reporting 7.16.x 7.18.x sure seem like Windows installs using WSL. My 2700x might be ready for WSL right now; I'll see if WSL installs easily.
I could not report it as I don't speak Russian and don't read it either.
So I let it go as it works on my newer computers with no problems.
Conan
I used IMTranslate and have posted to their earlier forums with success, but the new Forums are hosted at Moscow University with very wide variety of subsections.
Found the Gerasim@Home subforum, and could try again, if I create a login, but some native Russian speaker using a native Linux OS should eventually notice, since this is confirmed on two machines now.
Thanks Conan for saving me any more diagnostic time.
Posted 17 Mar 2023 by
marmot
After digging into my bag of tricks it looks like I got a few of the Xtrack Wu's ... :)
I knew YOU could pull it off!
Posted 15 Mar 2023 by
marmot
anything special you have to do to get theses Wu's ... ???
Did you get some?
Looks like the ones I aborted, and the ones that went past deadline, actually got resent.
Make sure they hit a Windows OS, where they run forever. On a Linux box (these WU's are experimenting with a 1 app fits many OS wrapper) they complete in 2-4 secs.
No I've never got any so something special must have to be done ... ?
They are just very limited, from the LHC developer site.
You seem to have great techniques at WU capture so maybe you weren't connected to the Dev site or bad luck?
Mine spoiled, so I can't abort and give out resends now.