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1) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6949)
Posted 9 Nov 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
It did, indeed, show up as a new app.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6945)
Posted 8 Nov 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Is this it ... Thank's

PBOYZTOYNP6870 Einstein@Home 2.02 Gravitational Wave search O2 Multi-Directional GPU (GW-opencl-nvidia) h1_0708.60_O2C02Cl2In0__O2MDFG2_G34731_708.90Hz_100_0 - (-) 0.00 0.000 00:13:56 11/15/2019 2:58:44 PM 0.9C + 1NV Downloading


yup.

Still remains to be seen whether it gets a separate app here though.. I have a wupropr wu being turned in fairly soon.


I'm pretty sure it will -- but it hasn't shown up yet.

Another Einstein GPU task run during the same WUProp task DID show up where it was supposed to, but this new app didn't appear at all. That's what you expect from a new app.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6936)
Posted 8 Nov 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Reading the Einstein boards - I'm now thinking they hadn't sent out any wu's for the new app (O2MDF) at the time I got wu's and mine were the GPU app for the O2MD1 hence why they merged here.

Will see if I can get some of the new ones..


I haven't been able to figure out which box to check there to get the new app. The most obvious choice is the last one ("Gravitational Wave search O2 Multi-Directional"), but I don't get any tasks when I select that. I only have GPU tasks selected.


I've got the same settings and I'm not getting anything either even though the server status page shows tasks available for O2MDF.

EDIT - I've asked the question over on the Einstein boards


I *did* get the new task when I turned on the "allow other tasks if none are available" box.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6934)
Posted 8 Nov 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Reading the Einstein boards - I'm now thinking they hadn't sent out any wu's for the new app (O2MDF) at the time I got wu's and mine were the GPU app for the O2MD1 hence why they merged here.

Will see if I can get some of the new ones..


I haven't been able to figure out which box to check there to get the new app. The most obvious choice is the last one ("Gravitational Wave search O2 Multi-Directional"), but I don't get any tasks when I select that. I only have GPU tasks selected.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Quake Catcher Taiwan (Message 6917)
Posted 29 Oct 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Perhaps they are at a new url, as they seem to have changed to http://qcntw.earth.sinica.edu.tw/


Digging around on that website, I found their "BOINC Installation" instructions.

The URL listed in their instructions is http://qcn.twgrid.org/continual/.

That site does not respond.
6) Message boards : News : Grid computing center (Message 6878)
Posted 1 Oct 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Things not working ? like what ? (examples)


I can't react to https://signature.statseb.fr/forum/ , being stopped by the Pun stop bots question 'How many letters are in the latin alphabet'? which won't accept any answer in any languge or digit.

Our badges for Atlas@Home are still showing for LHC@Home -years out-of-date.

Seb does not react to PM's either.


I think I had to Google than one. It's 23.

My Atlas badges finally showed up there. :)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6841)
Posted 7 Sep 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
New PrimeGrid app. It is also MT, like all of their other LLR apps now.

"Fermat Divisor Search PPS-DIV (LLR) -- "llrDIV""


PPS LLR (PPS, PPSE, MEGA, DIV) Looks like it will be included in with the rest of the PPS LLR App's so no new badge for the App ...


Right: no new badge, but it will be a new WUProp app. Assuming, of course, WUProp starts recording PrimeGrid LLR hours again. It hasn't been recording any LLR hours on any app since we switched to the (mt) plan class.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : PrimeGrid hours not posting (Message 6833)
Posted 5 Sep 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
This seems to be affecting many people at PrimeGrid, based upon our forums, Discord server, and private communications.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : PrimeGrid hours not posting (Message 6830)
Posted 4 Sep 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
PG changed their LLR app names from version 8.03 to 8.04 (mt) and the hours are not appearing here. This isn't a "major change" and shouldn't cause the creation of a new app as far as WuProp is concerned, the hours should still go to the same places. I'm sure the (mt) is confusing whatever automation ignores version numbers.


Plan class != app name.

The app names didn't change, but I think you're right about the hours not registering.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Please remove "CompositeGrid" from your database (Message 6813)
Posted 18 Aug 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
This project still showed up yesterday.

Went to hunt for the URL to connect and luckily found this thread.


The block on "CompositeGrid" appears to have been lost during recovery from the recent database problem here.

I suspect the block will be reinstated at some point, at which point all the CompositeGrid WUProp hours will vanish again. This is out of my control.

I don't recommend running CompositeGrid, unless you are actually doing PrimeGrid testing. (There is currently no testing right now.)
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 6749)
Posted 24 Jun 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
100 x 100k hours...all purple!



Congratulations! That is truly impressive.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Badge upgrades thread (Message 6748)
Posted 24 Jun 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
100 x 100k hours...all purple!



Congratulations! That is truly impressive.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6706)
Posted 30 May 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
What is the app name? WCG has had several apps with 'beta' in the name over the years.

There is an active WCG app called "Beta" with 1 task completed in the past 24 hours according to the link on the WUProp home page.


It's called "beta", same as all the earlier WCG beta tests I've done. But even if it was called something else, it should still be showing up as *something*.

The tasks haven't completed yet, but as far as I know, for the last couple of years, WUProp has been recording in-progress tasks.


If it was 'beta' vs 'Beta' then I think WUProp might recognize that as a separate app. The 'Beta' version was the 1 task I saw, which is now gone of course. I have several WCG beta apps named: Beta Test, Beta, Beta - FightAIDS@Home - VINA, and Beta - The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2.

There are some apps that do not start with a capital letter so I would think that matters in terms of having credit in beta vs Beta. If so then there always seems to be a delay from the first set of tasks to when hours show up on user's home pages. At least recently, the hours have been backdated to include the ones that haven't shown up yet prior to the sticky post.


There's more than one strange thing going on here.

When I looked earlier, I said "the current test "beta" is the same name as what I have in my WUProp hours list". And it was. It said "beta" before.

Right now, it says "Beta Test". Somebody's been messin' with the database!

Trying to fix whatever is wrong, no doubt.

It doesn't matter much to me, personally. I'm in this for the WCG badge, not the WUProp hours. In terms of hours, it works for me either way. If it gets combined with the existing WCG beta hours, great. It will bump up that app's star a color or two. If it ends up being a new app, then I have one more app with a star. It's good either way.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6700)
Posted 30 May 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
What is the app name? WCG has had several apps with 'beta' in the name over the years.

There is an active WCG app called "Beta" with 1 task completed in the past 24 hours according to the link on the WUProp home page.


It's called "beta", same as all the earlier WCG beta tests I've done. But even if it was called something else, it should still be showing up as *something*.

The tasks haven't completed yet, but as far as I know, for the last couple of years, WUProp has been recording in-progress tasks.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : News of Projects and Apps Starting and Ending... (Message 6698)
Posted 30 May 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
WCG earlier released an initial limited run of Beta wu's for their new project.


Hours for the beta tasks don't seem to be showing up at WUProp.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Oddness setting up Gerasim account (Message 6669)
Posted 29 Apr 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
So he's politely telling me to go to a more modern BOINC project?


It sounds like he's telling you to set up your global preferences at a more modern project. Global preferences, being, well, global, are effective no matter which project you use to set them up.

Unfortunately, that isn't going to fix your problem. It's entire possible something got lost in translation.

You may be out of luck there. You're correct in thinking that you need Gerasim's admin's help to fix this.

EDIT: I'm dubious that what he suggests will work, but maybe I'm wrong. You could try going to, say, Einstein, changing your global preferences on that site (aka "computing preferences" - not the "project preferences"), do an update on your computer, and then try to connect to Gerasim again. I don't think it will work, but that's what he suggested, so you might as well try it.

Is anyone else able to get WU's on BOINC 7.14.x?


Yes, I did.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : PRIVATE GFN Server Can't Connect or Attach to ? (Message 6657)
Posted 26 Apr 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Some networking problems popped up somewhere in the Internet. Nothing changed on the Private GFN Server, and presumably nothing changed on your end either. It was something in the middle.

There's a discussion about it on PrimeGrid's GFN forum (Private GFN Server doesn't run its own forums). Some networking changes were made at the Private GFN Server. If it's still doesn't work, there's some information there that might help you.

https://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8504&nowrap=true#128949

(Neither I nor PrimeGrid are involved with this, but I thought you might find this information helpful.)
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Oddness setting up Gerasim account (Message 6653)
Posted 25 Apr 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
One more odd thing:
Archive.Org hasn't been able to archive their forums since Nov 2018 and I can't see their forums, even from a proxy.


Their forums appear to be broken, or at least inaccessible.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Oddness setting up Gerasim account (Message 6649)
Posted 23 Apr 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
Gerasim is the only Windows-based BOINC project I'm aware of. Everything about the website had to be ported from Linux to a Windows equivalent. As such, it's got a very different "look-and-feel" to it, and it's also a unique beast under the hood.

Don't be surprised if things there work differently than they do elsewhere.

"Why is this website different from all other websites?" (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Milkyway@home GPU Doesn't Show (Message 6631)
Posted 13 Apr 2019 by Profile Michael Goetz
(It's not shown in the quoted text, but this is referring to changing the column heading on the web page that displays a list of tasks. There's also a portion that refers to the BOINC Manager, but my reply is about the web page only.)

So go to the BOINC forums and complain there

It will take more than just a couple of people pointing out the flaw in the Application column to achieve a change by suggestions on their forums.


You're right about that. Probably you're more correct than you realize. Getting that changed would be extraordinarily difficult.

You want the column heading changed on the BOINC task webpage. Sounds simple enough, right? In fact, it is a trivial change to some text, provided you don't care about localization, e.g., other languages.

The real difficulty, the part that makes this nearly impossible to achieve, is that getting the BOINC developers at Berkeley to make this change is just a small part of the problem. You also have to get every single BOINC webmaster on the planet to make the change to their servers. That's not going to happen.

There's a few webmasters who religiously incorporate every change from Berkeley. They're a small minority. Most webmasters set up their webserver, customize it as needed, and then never upgrade it from the Berkeley repository again. Some will, when needed, apply only those updates they deem essential.

The bottom line is that even if you get Berkeley to make the change, only a handful of existing BOINC servers will incorporate that change into their systems.


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