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host and multiple instances will be banished from WUProp. On a single-core Raspberry Pi B+ is it very easy to exceed the number of cores. But I do not run GCC on it, at the advice of QCN I run only QCN. I try to get my Raspberry Sense Hat communicating with the QCN projects -any of the now five active ones will do, so I run QCN, QCN continual, QCN Taiwan, QCN Taiwan Continual and QCN continual EMSC / SCEM. They all have a different project url. ____________ | |
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I can only shake my head at this. | |
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All tasks are validating but I am getting zero hours for any CPU work. 4 core tablet has half the hours in past day as my 32 thread machine. I have not exceeded clients > cores since the admin has made that announcement yet I have had 0 hours for ALL CPU work. All of it. | |
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All tasks are validating but I am getting zero hours for any CPU work. 4 core tablet has half the hours in past day as my 32 thread machine. I have not exceeded clients > cores since the admin has made that announcement yet I have had 0 hours for ALL CPU work. All of it. It's not just you, going by the server_status page the server is having problems. Looks like there are over 10k wu's waiting to be analysed... ____________ | |
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All tasks are validating but I am getting zero hours for any CPU work. 4 core tablet has half the hours in past day as my 32 thread machine. I have not exceeded clients > cores since the admin has made that announcement yet I have had 0 hours for ALL CPU work. All of it. Hmm I see. The timing put it right at the admin's last post about the latest rule update so it looked like had been banned. | |
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I do not believe this. Why can't I defend myself for I have done nothing wrong yet I am told that I am abusing the system and inferring that I am a cheat. The Admin on GridComputing Center has stated that he is 99.9 percent happy with people using Multiple Clients. If I follow their policy, I will not get credit for it here. Please tell me where can I read up on the use of Multiple Clients where it states that we will abuse the system by its use. Surely, it is up to individual project to accept or reject its use. To tell me that I am a cheat by using it is not acceptable to me. You BOK all all people should realize that in your own Team where you are called Ambassador its use is openly encouraged and I have no doubt that those in that team with High credits have used it. I am sure you would not accept it if you were told that they are all cheats and abused the system. I think it is about time we stopped and closed this thread. Let us accept that there are people who are sensitive and do not like a project or its manager who haphazardly creates rules to suit himself at the expense of innocent users. By creating rules contrary to projects policies that he supports and threatens all users that unless the cheating stops in two weeks time a couple of projects will be deleted from his project. Why do innocent users should suffer. Why is the policy changed in the middle of the game and not earlier. Surely it was obvious that some users accumulated a massive number of hours months ago. Now I have no chance to ever catch up to them. At least I am happy that I still have a choice to support WUprop or disconnect from it. I chose the later. ____________ | |
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For a bit of fun. @ Bok. Since I am not sure what is your country of origin and I can not see you shaking your head, one could assume that you are in complete agreement with me. According to the Dictionary, in particular the last paragraph: to shake one's head (third-person singular simple present shakes one's head, present participle shaking one's head, simple past shook one's head, past participle shaken one's head) To move one's head from side to side, in a repeated swiveling motion from the neck, to indicate disagreement, negation, disbelief, disapproval or dismay.  [quotations ▼] (less common) To move one's head up and down, in a repeated hinge-like motion from the top of the spine, to indicate agreement, affirmation, approval, or simply polite attentiveness.  [quotations ▼] Usage notes[edit] A relatively quick head movement from side to side indicates an emphatic "no," while a slower motion tends to indicate disbelief or dismay. A relatively quick head movement up and down indicates an emphatic "yes," while a slower motion tends to indicate attentiveness. In some countries, for example in Bulgaria and Sri Lanka, the meanings are reversed: i.e. a movement side to side means "yes" and a movement up and down means "no" ____________ | |
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In India people also tilt their heads to left and right repeatedly, what means something like "maybe". ____________ | |
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Project has blocked many of user instances running GCC, WUprop and FiND@Home/Enigma@Home, probably because FiND/Enigma are not generating work recently. | |
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Project has blocked many of user instances running GCC, WUprop and FiND@Home/Enigma@Home, probably because FiND/Enigma are not generating work recently. It would be interesting to find out why he blocked Enigma. A few days ago they released new GPU apps and I am crunching them right now. Unfortunately, he has no time to inform users why he is doing it. After all, it is his project and he can do what he likes. What you need users for it only creates work for him. Do as you are told and don't ask questions is his motto.. ____________ | |
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Project has blocked many of user instances running GCC, WUprop and FiND@Home/Enigma@Home, probably because FiND/Enigma are not generating work recently. You run 8 clients on an Athlon 5350 (4 cores). So I blocked 4 instances. | |
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Project has blocked many of user instances running GCC, WUprop and FiND@Home/Enigma@Home, probably because FiND/Enigma are not generating work recently. Back to the start. Please tell us where does it say that the BOINC Manager that has the option to use Multiple clients is illegal to use. It is available to all users, the choice is theirs and I have not heard of any complaint from any projects that they do not want too many cores working for them. Any machine will only crunch 100% efficiently as their cores will allow. In the above case 4 cores will only use at best 50% of the cores. By using Multiple Clients and adding an additional 4 clients the machine is quite happy and the project will receive double the original output. Please consider the benefits and if you need help solving the issue perhaps discuss it with the BOINC Devs. In my case, it does not matter for I have already detached from this project. However the users should be told the reason why you are doing this. To date you have not done so or answered any question regarding it. I think what they would like to hear is why is it wrong to use Multiple Clients. ____________ | |
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Well simply because it is not counting right with multiple clients. If a CPU runs only 50% of the time it receives 50% of the hours. So theoretically if a program does not utilize CPU fully but only use 50% for example, only 50% of the hours should be given. This is, of course, hard to estimate so the solution here is to give full hours regardless of utilization of given tasks. | |
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Project has blocked many of user instances running GCC, WUprop and FiND@Home/Enigma@Home, probably because FiND/Enigma are not generating work recently. You're not allowing 8 clients on my 3770k. Not the 8 I want to run at least. Again, you're dictating how we run our own machines. If I reformat my computer, which I actually want to do, all clients will be blocked. | |
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You're not allowing 8 clients on my 3770k. Not the 8 I want to run at least. Again, you're dictating how we run our own machines. Post here or send me via PM the list of hostid you want to run. | |
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You're not allowing 8 clients on my 3770k. Not the 8 I want to run at least. Again, you're dictating how we run our own machines. All of them. :D I found the one that wasn't blocked and will swap folders around so they are arranged on my computer appropriately. | |
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I have now reattached to WuProp because I realize that by demanding I put myself in the same boat as Sebastien and the issue of abuse, cheating and use of Multiple Clients should be addressed much more positively. It is clear to me that the issue is not yet resolved for by reading this thread all I see is confusion, guessing and uncertainty. | |
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Back to blocking legitimate hosts I see. | |
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I also get that this is Seb's project so he has the final say... However, despite my machine only being 4 cores, I have 125 instances of BOINC running. 1 of which runs Enigma, Goofy & WUProp, 124 of which currently just run Goofy. | |
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I wish to utilize the maximum use of my machines but I am still not sure just how many nci apps I can run without penalty. | |
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