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1) Message boards : Science : Lots of missing data (Message 9167)
Posted 3 days ago by Link
1. My GPU is still missing together with the entire AMD HD 3000 series, I can't even see it on http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/gpu.py. I reported the issue the 17th Jan 2021, that's nearly 1.5 years ago.

Your GPU is too old to be correctly identified.

It's identified by BOINC without any issues: AMD ATI Radeon HD 3800 (RV670) (512MB) driver: 1.4.1734

This section of client_state.xml does look OK too, seems to detect everything right, even including the double precision capability:
<coproc_ati>
<count>0</count>
<name>ATI Radeon HD 3800 (RV670)</name>
<available_ram>503316480.000000</available_ram>
<have_cal>1</have_cal>
<have_opencl>0</have_opencl>
<peak_flops>921600000000.000000</peak_flops>
<CALVersion>1.4.1734</CALVersion>
<target>3</target>
<localRAM>512</localRAM>
<uncachedRemoteRAM>2047</uncachedRemoteRAM>
<cachedRemoteRAM>2047</cachedRemoteRAM>
<engineClock>720</engineClock>
<memoryClock>900</memoryClock>
<wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
<numberOfSIMD>4</numberOfSIMD>
<doublePrecision>1</doublePrecision>
<pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
<surface_alignment>4096</surface_alignment>
<maxResource1DWidth>8192</maxResource1DWidth>
<maxResource2DWidth>8192</maxResource2DWidth>
<maxResource2DHeight>8192</maxResource2DHeight>
<atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>




2. 5 out of 7 of my computers have disappeared recently from the my computers pull down menus on the result page, even the Pentium M ist gone even it is active sometimes for couple of days (running than 24/7 and crunching Einstein). Hours are counted, but no data makes it to the result page.

When I restarted the project, I deleted any old data.

OK, but that does not explain, why currently active computers are not making it back on the list.



3. The CPU time for my C2D is not available on the results page even though it is crunching Einstein for several hours every day (they are counted in my account). Eventually the time between checkpoints is available for this CPU.


Your GPU is too old to be correctly identified.

I'm talking about the CPU here, crunching Einstein "Gamma-ray pulsar search #5" day by day. It doesn't make much sense, that times between checkpoints are available for this CPU for 3 different apps and two different OS types (Windows 32 bits and 64 bits), but no run times, there must be something wrong that leads to missing data.

All hosts and the applications they run are visible in http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/activity_24h.py, however part of them is missing on the results page.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Is calculation of hours run correct? (Message 9164)
Posted 3 days ago by Link
Is still NOT fixed.

There are lots of things not fixed or actually breaking down more and more every day as it seems.
3) Message boards : Science : Lots of missing data (Message 9163)
Posted 3 days ago by Link
My GPU is again not available on the results page after it had some vacation. Actually the entire Radeon HD 3000 series is gone.

Currently crunching Moo! about 12 hours a day, the hours count according to my account page, I also went to http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/gpu.py and submitted the GPU under "Your GPU is not listed. Please submit your GPU model. Model will be added as soon as possible" about a month ago, but nothing happened since than.

More than half year gone, GPU still crunching every day, but the submitted data is still not available to other users on the results page.

Another 10 months gone, nothing has been fixed. Actually it has got a lot worse since my last post and even more data is missing on the results page.

1. My GPU is still missing together with the entire AMD HD 3000 series, I can't even see it on http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/gpu.py. I reported the issue the 17th Jan 2021, that's nearly 1.5 years ago.

2. 5 out of 7 of my computers have disappeared recently from the my computers pull down menus on the result page, even the Pentium M ist gone even it is active sometimes for couple of days (running than 24/7 and crunching Einstein). Hours are counted, but no data makes it to the result page.

3. The CPU time for my C2D is not available on the results page even though it is crunching Einstein for several hours every day (they are counted in my account). Eventually the time between checkpoints is available for this CPU.

Long story short: out of my four currently running devices, only my Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray seems to be available on the results page. Well, at least I hope it is my, otherwise there's nothing.

While checking this I noticed all Intel GPUs are gone from the results page, in the category "GPU credit" even all GPUs are gone and it is completely useless right now. I don't have any Intel GPU, but I strongly doubt that no one is submitting data for them here.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Is calculation of hours run correct? (Message 9012)
Posted 1 May 2022 by Link
Most of mine have been off-line for over a year so I'm guessing they qualify as 'new' ones.

They qualify as new if you deleted BOINC data folder on them so they got a new host CPID. It doesn't matter how long they have been turned off as long as the server can recognize them, even detaching and reattaching usually doesn't trigger a new project host ID if the CPID didn't change.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Is calculation of hours run correct? (Message 8936)
Posted 17 Apr 2022 by Link
It could also be how the new volunteers are allocated, if someone is doing this and somedays just can't for whatever reason

I doubt someone is sitting there and adding the hours to our stats by hand, this is done by software on the server and this obviously isn't runnig properly since the introduction of the shorter WUs (what's the point of them?).


as long as in the end I do get what I'm supposed to get

Hard to verify currently, but probably we get what we are supposed to get, but not sure.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Is calculation of hours run correct? (Message 8933)
Posted 15 Apr 2022 by Link
Yes, seems something is often getting stuck and catching up later, now my Xperia has 25.97 hours last day, which is not possible for a single core device. Never seen this so far. Perhaps they should get back to the 6 hours WUs, with them everything worked fine. "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" seems to apply here too.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Is calculation of hours run correct? (Message 8927)
Posted 14 Apr 2022 by Link
The View last 24hours activity hosts page appears to be showing the correct hours again.

Well, not for me. My Xperia Ray is crunching Einstein 24/7, before the temporary shutdown it always had 23.9x hours on Binary Radio Pulsar Search, now it's always less than that.
8) Message boards : News : Project revival (Message 8866)
Posted 28 Mar 2022 by Link
All of my Windows systems have downloaded new tasks and are running. So far none of my Androids have downloaded a Task even though some tasks appear available.

My Android is getting tasks, but only 10 per day, so not running all the time, see also this thread.
9) Message boards : News : Project revival (Message 8823)
Posted 20 Mar 2022 by Link
That are good news.

Btw.
I would appreciate help to improve code and make it running for android devices.

I hope you can keep more versions of the app for Android like other projecs do, the current one was running fine on older devices.
10) Message boards : News : Project end (Message 8798)
Posted 10 Mar 2022 by Link
Please continue the project or at least let me upload my last wu's. (feeder not running)

Also the xml export seems to not work anymore, so please enable it again and give the stats sites some time to get our most recent credits. Thank you.


When the project is shut down, all the periodic processes, including the stats export, are automatically turned off.

Yes, that's why we both kindly ask to turn it on again for a day or two, so everyone can report their tasks and the stats sites can get the latest xlms after that. Basically extend the period with turned off work genarators while keeping the other processes on. There are still 4753 unreported WUs out there.
11) Message boards : News : Project end (Message 8796)
Posted 10 Mar 2022 by Link
Please continue the project or at least let me upload my last wu's. (feeder not running)

Also the xml export seems to not work anymore, so please enable it again and give the stats sites some time to get our most recent credits. Thank you.
12) Message boards : Science : Lots of missing data (Message 8315)
Posted 20 Aug 2021 by Link
My GPU is again not available on the results page after it had some vacation. Actually the entire Radeon HD 3000 series is gone.

Currently crunching Moo! about 12 hours a day, the hours count according to my account page, I also went to http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/gpu.py and submitted the GPU under "Your GPU is not listed. Please submit your GPU model. Model will be added as soon as possible" about a month ago, but nothing happened since than.

More than half year gone, GPU still crunching every day, but the submitted data is still not available to other users on the results page.
13) Message boards : Science : Lots of missing data (Message 7759)
Posted 17 Jan 2021 by Link
I suspect this is the underlying cause of the problem experienced by the OP (and myself). This change was done just a few days ago.

No, in my case the GPU isn't available on the results page since several months at least (or maybe even years), I didn't use this computer for quite long time.

Your NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB is also available on the results page, my Radeon HD 3850 not, you even can't select HD 3000 series.

I'm not talking about some missing hours, the hours are counted AFAICT, I'm talking about missing GPU on the results page.
14) Message boards : Science : Lots of missing data (Message 7753)
Posted 17 Jan 2021 by Link
My GPU is again not available on the results page after it had some vacation. Actually the entire Radeon HD 3000 series is gone.

Currently crunching Moo! about 12 hours a day, the hours count according to my account page, I also went to http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/gpu.py and submitted the GPU under "Your GPU is not listed. Please submit your GPU model. Model will be added as soon as possible" about a month ago, but nothing happened since than.
15) Message boards : Science : Wish list (Message 7653)
Posted 22 Dec 2020 by Link
Less specific filters for CPUs and GPUs on the results page.

Let me explain...

For example now I can view the runtimes of different applictions on my Intel Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale) E7300, this list is very short as you can see. So instead I'd like to see the runtimes on all Wolfdales.

So once someone selects the manufacturer and type of the CPU/GPU, just display results for all of them (just like you display now all platforms after selecting the model), and then if the user wants, he can choose the model.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : New CPU not showing in results (Message 6490)
Posted 3 Mar 2019 by Link
Two weeks later and my ATI HD3850 is still not in the results.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : New CPU not showing in results (Message 6455)
Posted 17 Feb 2019 by Link
Well, your CPU can at least be selected from the menu: Xeon Phi 7250.

My ATI HD3850, which is again crunching Moo! since about two weeks is not available at all, the entire HD 3000 series is missing. Maybe the admin schould have a look at this.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Big Credit Hiccup (Message 2437)
Posted 27 Oct 2014 by Link
Whatever it was, this phone (or whatever it is) will be #1 for quite long time I guess.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : mult clients (Message 2113)
Posted 24 Mar 2014 by Link
when 4 of the projects are running then only the client_state for those 4 projects needs to be updated and not all of the client_states will update at the same time.
so at most your only copy/update/rename 10 k per project or around 40 k if by chance all 4 projects just happen to need updating at the same time.

1 client 12 ci projects attached
client state 100 k, no repeated header/footer information
every time one of the projects need to have something updated in the client_state you will have to create another 100 k file each and every time.

messing with 40 k of data is a lot faster messing with 100 k of data.
maybe total bytes = 120 k but your only having to deal with at most 40 k at a time.

What's missing in your equation is the load generated by 12 WUProp apps (or 4x WUProp running at the same time). Also running more than one the BOINC client at a time costs additional CPU resources (I think we don't need to talk about HDD space here). From your describtion I understand, that 12 BOINC clients are running 24 hours a day and suspending and resuming their project apps according to their settings. You really think, that this way you save some resources? No, you might save some cycles when writing the client_state.xml, but you'll use even more somewhere else, it's not like all those BOINC clients are doing nothing just because their project apps are suspended. They will for example send scheduler requests to the WUProp servers once an hour, that involves not only writing a new version of the client_state.xml, but also sched_request_wuprop.boinc-af.org.xml and sched_reply_wuprop.boinc-af.org.xml + of course some CPU cycles. And that's just one thing they would be doing.



and no I wasn't talking about 30 days cache.
and before you say it, why would you run it that way, that's dum.
I didn't say I did, just trying to provide an example.

so, I try to explain what I'm talking about, but like my last post, nobody really gets what I am trying to say 99.9999% of the time..

Well, maybe you need better examples than. Examples, where it is clearly the user's fault, that something isn't working properly, are simply showing, that it's possible to misconfigure BOINC. And that's a well known fact.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : mult clients (Message 2111)
Posted 23 Mar 2014 by Link
now a client that has 12 projects attached to it with 30 days of results the client state can reach well over 10 million bytes.
now coping 10 milling bytes from one file to another and changing whatever needed to be update then doing the delete and renaming takes a heck of a lot of time...

30 days cache is very unusual, so if that's the issue, than simply set it to a lower value, with that many projects you don't need such a big cache, if one project runs out of work, others take over.

Also I remember before we had WU limits at SETI, people were reporting client_state.xml sizes of over 40MB, the only issue they had was uploading the 10+MB scheduler requests to the servers.



also for a period of time you have 3 10 million byte files on your mass storage device..

Having three 10MB files on the hard drive should not be an issue since at least two decades and for sure not today. So what's your point with "10 million bytes"?

It also doesn't matter, if you split the one big client_state.xml into many small ones, the total size is still the same or actually many small client_state.xml files even a bit larger than one big because the host/user information has to be stored in each of them.


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