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Message 7271 - Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 19:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 7268.  
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Thanks for your advice, to be clear, both the routers I am using (Netgears) are hard wired to give out a maximum of 32 wifi addresses per channel. I know that if you are using ethernet cables then the limit as you say is 253. Yes, the range the Netgear routers run is 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255, the other router I have is a TPLink which has an address of 192.168.1.1. I've run a few checks using IP scanner and this can see the Router but if I type in 192.168.1.1 then I can't access it to change anything. Now then, when my Internet was upgraded to Fibre To Cabinet this router no longer worked so I had to purchase the Netgear routers. The strange thing is though that I was able to plug it in to the new Netgear router and it worked just fine then when we had a power outage a few months ago it reverted to 192.168.1.1 and I've no idea how to get into the router to change the parameters. I also dug out an old Netgear WAP which should have an address of 192.168.0.227 but this shows up as 192.168.1.227 and I can't access it...As my wife made me remove all of my ethernet cables and hubs a while ago I started using Powerline connectors but since the power cut one of them no longer works, shrug.
One other option I have is to get a Hauwei internet box but these only support 10 connections and cost around £30 a month.

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You can try resetting it to factory setting. First find factory reset button - it is in small hole, usually on back of device. Then plug in your router, and press that button (you will need pin or something like this to reach it). After this wait a bit and try to connect to it. Make sure you connect from "inside" network of the router, access from "external" network usually is disabled by default. You may also need to use cable connection, as access via WiFi also may be disabled by default.
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Message 7272 - Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 22:18:30 UTC - in response to Message 7271.  
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Just adding 3 colors, I realize the programming to do that isn't as easy as that, lets the badges get to 1 million credits.
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Message 7273 - Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 23:25:56 UTC

Ah, sorry about that mikey. I did check I added the e in your name but missed the c.

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Message 7274 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 1:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 7273.  

Ah, sorry about that mikey. I did check I added the e in your name but missed the c.

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It's okay LOTS of people do it, the mouse dude is ALOT more well known than I am :-))
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Message 7276 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 11:53:18 UTC - in response to Message 7271.  

Thanks for your advice, to be clear, both the routers I am using (Netgears) are hard wired to give out a maximum of 32 wifi addresses per channel. I know that if you are using ethernet cables then the limit as you say is 253. Yes, the range the Netgear routers run is 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255, the other router I have is a TPLink which has an address of 192.168.1.1. I've run a few checks using IP scanner and this can see the Router but if I type in 192.168.1.1 then I can't access it to change anything. Now then, when my Internet was upgraded to Fibre To Cabinet this router no longer worked so I had to purchase the Netgear routers. The strange thing is though that I was able to plug it in to the new Netgear router and it worked just fine then when we had a power outage a few months ago it reverted to 192.168.1.1 and I've no idea how to get into the router to change the parameters. I also dug out an old Netgear WAP which should have an address of 192.168.0.227 but this shows up as 192.168.1.227 and I can't access it...As my wife made me remove all of my ethernet cables and hubs a while ago I started using Powerline connectors but since the power cut one of them no longer works, shrug.
One other option I have is to get a Hauwei internet box but these only support 10 connections and cost around £30 a month.

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You can try resetting it to factory setting. First find factory reset button - it is in small hole, usually on back of device. Then plug in your router, and press that button (you will need pin or something like this to reach it). After this wait a bit and try to connect to it. Make sure you connect from "inside" network of the router, access from "external" network usually is disabled by default. You may also need to use cable connection, as access via WiFi also may be disabled by default.


Thanks, but I already tried that, not only on the TP Link router but on the Netgear WAP plus a couple of other old routers I have stored away. They all get IP's in the range 192.168.1.x. I'm thinking that my router doesn't have any IP's to allocate in the 192.168.0.x range due to all the other wifi devices I'm running ?

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Message 7277 - Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 12:07:36 UTC

I'd recommend installing the Fing network scanner app (or alternative) and letting it loose on your Wifi. It will tell you what is in use.
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Message 7284 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 2:17:17 UTC

When I click on my stats/hours run for the different Projects here it shows I have 147 total Projects along with the different apps but when I look at the most recent list of people moving up I see people with anywhere from 574 Projects to 180 total Projects, is there a list somewhere showing every project and app with them? Or is it more of a search and find thing? In the past I've gone thru Free DC to go thru the top crunchers list to find new Projects but that seems labor intensive, especially since ALOT of them have closed down.
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Message 7285 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 2:37:42 UTC - in response to Message 7284.  
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When I click on my stats/hours run for the different Projects here it shows I have 147 total Projects along with the different apps but when I look at the most recent list of people moving up I see people with anywhere from 574 Projects to 180 total Projects, is there a list somewhere showing every project and app with them? Or is it more of a search and find thing? In the past I've gone thru Free DC to go thru the top crunchers list to find new Projects but that seems labor intensive, especially since ALOT of them have closed down.


Projects come and go. The reason people have many more apps than you (or than I) is that they have many, many apps that no longer exist.

We will never catch up to them. The best we can do is run what's available.
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Message 7286 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 7:24:33 UTC

Projects come and go. The reason people have many more apps than you (or than I) is that they have many, many apps that no longer exist.

We will never catch up to them. The best we can do is run what's available.


Unless I misunderstand you I hardly think that is the only reason, for some people having many more Badges than others. It probably is part of the reason but mikey joined Wuprop less than 2 months after I did.

I highly doubt I accumulated 20 more Badges & at much higher levels in the less than 2 months before mikey joined the Project. Zombie joined after I did but has 2 more Badges than me, I think it's more a matter of the amount of computers a person has or had & able to collect the badges early on & faster when the Wuprop Project 1'st started.

I don't recall but I don't think Badges were rewarded retroactively when the Wuprop Project 1'st started.
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Message 7287 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 9:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 7286.  
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i think time is an important aspect - starting early *and* having the time and inclination to find, to add and then run lots of apps gets plenty of stars, rewarding that hard work

i think having lots of computers is more about getting purple stars
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Message 7288 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 10:04:57 UTC

I think more importantly the right kind of processors are needed to achieve the badges. An AMD GPU, NV GPU, a CPU to run each of them on Windows/Linux, Android device and miner to run BTC when it was running. Some apps are only available on certain devices can that can inhibit the # of. The number of processors can inhibit the badge level though.
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Message 7289 - Posted: 5 Aug 2020, 12:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 7284.  

Hehe, being an ATA is clearly an addiction... ;-)

mikey wrote:
... is there a list somewhere showing every project and app with them?

That's why WUProp is here more or less. Of course not every project/app is listed here automatically, but following some threads here helps a lot to get them.

Or is it more of a search and find thing? In the past I've gone thru Free DC to go thru the top crunchers list to find new Projects but that seems labor intensive, especially since ALOT of them have closed down.

You don't need to check specific crunchers, it's more checking forums and team chats/talks to find new projects/apps. There are several sources I had in the past to get to this level where I am now. Plus sometimes you can even have the luck to find a project yourself - if you know what to search for.

You can pretty much sum up what's just mentioned from the others, it's a combination of everything to get enough apps - rest is assured.
Unfortunately projects today are getting more rare, so everyone who starts now to collect apps will probably need a lot of time to come to a similar level like the (current) top users here - if at all, that depends on so many factors...
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Message 7290 - Posted: 6 Aug 2020, 17:50:24 UTC - in response to Message 7288.  

I think more importantly the right kind of processors are needed to achieve the badges. An AMD GPU, NV GPU, a CPU to run each of them on Windows/Linux, Android device and miner to run BTC when it was running. Some apps are only available on certain devices can that can inhibit the # of. The number of processors can inhibit the badge level though.


As a minimum you need Windows and Nvidia GPU, this will cover projects which are Windows only and CUDA GPU apps. Linux also may be helpful. AMD GPU uses OpenCL which is also supported by Nvidia cards, so AMD-only projects are rare (if they exists). You also should get some Android device, and some ARM-based device like Raspberry Pi. Look for 64-bit ones (called ARCH64 or ARM64), as some projects have 64-bit ARM app only. After extra configuration you will be able to run 32-bit ARM apps on them too.
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Message 7292 - Posted: 7 Aug 2020, 0:02:01 UTC

This link shows all the active projects and active apps for the last 24 hours:

https://wuprop.boinc-af.org/active_projects.py

There are other live projects and apps of course, but are currently out of work.
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Message 7293 - Posted: 8 Aug 2020, 1:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 7288.  
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I think more importantly the right kind of processors are needed to achieve the badges. An AMD GPU, NV GPU, a CPU to run each of them on Windows/Linux, Android device and miner to run BTC when it was running. Some apps are only available on certain devices can that can inhibit the # of. The number of processors can inhibit the badge level though.


And that could be my problem i have about 20 pc’s crunching right now with @100 cpu cores working on new and upgraded badges here. I have most of my gpu’s shut down for the summer But a couple are running, 4 i think. I haven’t been focused on badges here, didn’t Even barely think about them until recently. But i did go for credits in the different projects. Now that I have focused here at wuprop i have gotten a bunch up to the next level and am now focusing on the ones that will take a little longer. A new update by the project should change some things.

I found a list of 200 apps for all the projects and the problem is that I just don’t have all those different kinds of hardware to do all of them but I am trying to do the ones I do have.

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Message 7294 - Posted: 8 Aug 2020, 1:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 7292.  

This link shows all the active projects and active apps for the last 24 hours:

https://wuprop.boinc-af.org/active_projects.py

There are other live projects and apps of course, but are currently out of work.


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Message 7295 - Posted: 8 Aug 2020, 1:53:22 UTC - in response to Message 7293.  


I found a list of 200 apps for all the projects and the problem is that I just don’t have all those different kinds of hardware to do all of them but I am trying to do the ones I do have.

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Lack of specialized hardware isn't your problem.

If you have a Windows computer with an Nvidia GPU you can run:

Windows CPU apps
Windows GPU apps, both CUDA and OpenCL
Linux CPU apps (by installing Linux in a VM using the VBOX that comes with BOINC)

That one computer can run almost all of the currently available apps.

There's two projects (Quakecatcher and Radioactive@Home) where you'll need special sensor hardware to run the projects.

Other than that, off the top of my head, there's *one* app (Rosetta's Android app) that you can't run with that one computer. There's certainly lots of other app_versions that you won't be able to run, but WUProp counts apps, and not app_versions.

There simply aren't that many active projects. There's many projects that don't have work available, or development servers that are password protected. Keep your eyes open for new projects or inactive apps getting new work.

Mind you, I'm not saying Android devices aren't useful. They're great for building hours at low cost. But almost all Android/Raspian/whatever apps are also available under Windows (CPU or GPU) or Linux (CPU).
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Message 7296 - Posted: 8 Aug 2020, 7:48:59 UTC

On Windows 10 you can also install Windows Subsystem for Linux, to run Linux apps directly on WIndows without VM. Recent BoincMgr versions supports this. Installation instruction for WSL is here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

BTW, install VirtualBox on your machines if you do not have it. Some projects require it.
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Message 7297 - Posted: 8 Aug 2020, 14:15:23 UTC
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FWIW, Einstein has a separate app that seems to be a catch-all for odd-ball CPUs/GPUs/OSs: Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo)

https://einsteinathome.org/apps.php
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Message 7344 - Posted: 6 Sep 2020, 12:10:18 UTC - in response to Message 7297.  

FWIW, Einstein has a separate app that seems to be a catch-all for odd-ball CPUs/GPUs/OSs: Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo)

https://einsteinathome.org/apps.php


I wonder how many people still return results running the ALTIVEC-optimized Binary Radio Pulsar Search for 32-bit PowerPC's (e.g. Apple Power Mac G3 and G4)
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