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Message 7935 - Posted: 18 Mar 2021, 21:47:52 UTC - in response to Message 7934.  

Yup, basically have to do the things that the VB image has setup but it allows for lower memory usage.

I haven't seen any tasks available at LHC or LHC-dev. Hopefully my native setup still works.


now a "long" application requires 3850M of free memory and every time it increases this requirement

the VM setup can be checked on a normal ATLAS
key there is native singularity compatibility
and/or the ability to use the proposed CERN version
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Message 7936 - Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 5:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 7932.  

only Linux and with VB

Without VB
It is currently native linux-only and a minimum of 4 CPUs is required.

Heck, yeah, you're right. I mixed it up with the BOINC message which said it needed the VB... stupid me. ;-)
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Message 7937 - Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 23:09:24 UTC

I need an invitation code to sign up for lhc-dev, right?
Want to find one of the largest known primes? Try PrimeGrid. Or help cure disease at WCG.

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Message 7938 - Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 1:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 7937.  

I need an invitation code to sign up for lhc-dev, right?
I don't think that was the case at the very start of the project, but it seems so now. I've PM'd an admin there for an invite code for you.
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Message 7939 - Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 6:42:59 UTC
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Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually. This includes Make, and dealing with dependency errors. And the intrusions are not on the dev project message board. They are the production project message board. And they are kinda out of date (2018). Not all of those instructions work with ubuntu 20. There is some trial and error, and searching around to make it all work.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4840&postid=36880#36880

This also helps:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5616&postid=44485#44485

Good luck!
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Message 7940 - Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 8:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 7939.  

Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually.


Like you, I already have VMs configured properly from running the production versions of both the Native Atlas app and the Native Theory app.

I do plan on configuring a new Linux system, and I suspect the build instructions for singularity haven’t aged gracefully. I’m looking forward to that challenge!
Want to find one of the largest known primes? Try PrimeGrid. Or help cure disease at WCG.

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Message 7941 - Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 12:33:57 UTC - in response to Message 7939.  

Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually. This includes Make, and dealing with dependency errors. And the intrusions are not on the dev project message board. They are the production project message board. And they are kinda out of date (2018). Not all of those instructions work with ubuntu 20. There is some trial and error, and searching around to make it all work.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4840&postid=36880#36880

This also helps:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5616&postid=44485#44485

Good luck!


I just setup an additional PC using the 1st link on Ubuntu 18.04. The changes I had to make were

Updating go version to 1.13
From
cd
wget https://dl.google.com/go/go1.11.linux-amd64.tar.gz

To
cd
wget https://dl.google.com/go/go1.13.linux-amd64.tar.gz


Then of course unpacking it:
sudo tar -C /usr/local -xzf go1.13.linux-amd64.tar.gz


And installing an awk application:
sudo apt install gawk


It's been running between 1800-1900 MB memory usage on 4 cores set per LHC profile. BoincTasks was showing more than 4 cores usage once it got going (I hadn't checked actual usage). The task got near the end and is now using 4 cores and is slowly processing through the last %.

2 other PCs aren't working, I think I had setup singularity from a PPA a long time ago instead of the longer process of make. They don't work with non-dev LHC either any more.

Found the post discussing this on my team forum. It basically mentioned using the instructions for adding the repository and installing
https://singularity.lbl.gov/install-linux

Could probably do the same with cvmfs:
sudo apt-get install lsb-release wget https://ecsft.cern.ch/dist/cvmfs/cvmfs-release/cvmfs-release-latest_all.deb sudo dpkg -i cvmfs-release-latest_all.deb rm -f cvmfs-release-latest_all.deb 

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install cvmfs

Plus the configuring mentioned at LHC.
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Message 7942 - Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 18:08:21 UTC - in response to Message 7939.  

Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually. This includes Make, and dealing with dependency errors. And the intrusions are not on the dev project message board. They are the production project message board. And they are kinda out of date (2018). Not all of those instructions work with ubuntu 20. There is some trial and error, and searching around to make it all work.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4840&postid=36880#36880

This also helps:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5616&postid=44485#44485

Good luck!

Damn, hoped to run the app without fiddling around anything but I remember once doing the same installation years before on openSuse - which went really well.
But since I'm running Ubuntu 20 now and as the first WU errored out I first searched myself for the stuff before and did exact the same - which of course isn't working.
Now I'm hanging on installing and getting cvmfs to work since there seem to be some errors but I have no clue what to do... :-(
If someone can or does want to help, you can PM me, this thread should remain a news thread for apps and not a problem solver for people. ;-)
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Message 7944 - Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 19:25:18 UTC

finds prine nunbers from boincserver

And who found such a wonderful project? Would you share the link? :o)
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Message 7946 - Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 10:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 7942.  

Good luck, I gave up on it, way over my head, hell I can't even get VBox installed right on either on my 2 LINUX Box's, says it's installing but never really does so BOINC can use it ...

Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually. This includes Make, and dealing with dependency errors. And the intrusions are not on the dev project message board. They are the production project message board. And they are kinda out of date (2018). Not all of those instructions work with ubuntu 20. There is some trial and error, and searching around to make it all work.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=4840&postid=36880#36880

This also helps:

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5616&postid=44485#44485

Good luck!

Damn, hoped to run the app without fiddling around anything but I remember once doing the same installation years before on openSuse - which went really well.
But since I'm running Ubuntu 20 now and as the first WU errored out I first searched myself for the stuff before and did exact the same - which of course isn't working.
Now I'm hanging on installing and getting cvmfs to work since there seem to be some errors but I have no clue what to do... :-(
If someone can or does want to help, you can PM me, this thread should remain a news thread for apps and not a problem solver for people. ;-)
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Message 7947 - Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 12:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 7944.  

finds prine nunbers from boincserver

And who found such a wonderful project? Would you share the link? :o)


Do you mean this one:
http://boincvm.proxyma.ru:30080/test4vm/index.php
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Message 7948 - Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 12:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 7947.  

mikey wrote:
Sergey Kovalchuk wrote:
finds prine nunbers from boincserver

And who found such a wonderful project? Would you share the link? :o)


Do you mean this one:
http://boincvm.proxyma.ru:30080/test4vm/index.php

This one. I'm thinking the admin for that project is testing solo while also running wuprop.
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Message 7949 - Posted: 22 Mar 2021, 16:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 7937.  
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I need an invitation code to sign up for lhc-dev, right?


How to request an invitation code.

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_thread.php?id=5447&postid=44532#44532

I think you have to do this on the production (non-dev) site, since you obviously will not yet have an account at the dev site.
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Message 7950 - Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 0:43:21 UTC - in response to Message 7816.  

PRIVATE GFN SERVER - GFN-1x Small Primes (gfn1x_small)


Sebastien hasn't listed these yet, been running them since yesterday ...


At this rate, the GFN-12 project may be over before we see the statistics on it
sad, though :o(


GFN-12 ??? I don't see them listed, I'm running the 1x Small Prime Wu's, Sebastien listed them awhile ago & I should Have my 100 Hr's in a few Hr's ...

1x Small Prime is sort of an umbrella to search for primes smaller than those offered by PrimeGrid (GFN-15 & up). Currently searching GFN-12. That's my understanding anyway...


Okay


Has there been any update on Sebastien listing the app's off of PRIVATE GFN SERVER yet ?

Thanks
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Message 7951 - Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 2:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 7950.  

PRIVATE GFN SERVER - GFN-1x Small Primes (gfn1x_small)


Sebastien hasn't listed these yet, been running them since yesterday ...


At this rate, the GFN-12 project may be over before we see the statistics on it
sad, though :o(


GFN-12 ??? I don't see them listed, I'm running the 1x Small Prime Wu's, Sebastien listed them awhile ago & I should Have my 100 Hr's in a few Hr's ...

1x Small Prime is sort of an umbrella to search for primes smaller than those offered by PrimeGrid (GFN-15 & up). Currently searching GFN-12. That's my understanding anyway...


Okay


Has there been any update on Sebastien listing the app's off of PRIVATE GFN SERVER yet ?

Thanks
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I have it listed from awhile back but nothing from any recent crunching:

PRIVATE GFN SERVER GFN-14 MEGA Prime Search 3,048.40 0.00
PRIVATE GFN SERVER LLR2 testing 2,776.85 0.00
PRIVATE GFN SERVER GFN-1x Small Primes 2,733.58 0.00
PRIVATE GFN SERVER GFN-14 Prime Search 1,034.57 0.00
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Message 7952 - Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 2:40:00 UTC - in response to Message 7950.  

Has there been any update on Sebastien listing the app's off of PRIVATE GFN SERVER yet ?


The list of applications is currently up to date

GFN-14 MEGA Prime Search 300
GFN-1x Small Primes 3201
LLR2 testing 1760

GFN-14 MEGA is on its way to completion, but is still active
GFN-13 MEGA not yet available - launch on March 27, at 09:00 UTC
There is a hidden Sandbox app, but it has no chance of getting into the stats
(from that "admin only for personal use" category)
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Message 7953 - Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 13:10:43 UTC - in response to Message 7939.  
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Just to bel clear, the "native" app requires that you pre-install a bunch of stuff manually

Good luck!


I finally have time today to get around to fix my Linux VM running on Windows (ATLAS loves to run for long periods on 1 core, or less than max, so this allows partitioning the workload to keep the cores occupied) CVMS install and the test phase is over and moving into production.

If I don't arrange my time better then it becomes hard to be a part of this little community.
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Message 7954 - Posted: 25 Mar 2021, 16:49:58 UTC - in response to Message 7931.  

ATLAS (long simulation) (native_mt)

Hm, this one isn't even deployed yet, but I guess it will be the same...

ATLAS (long simulation) is active

But there are still no statistics here :-(
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Message 7963 - Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 11:05:04 UTC - in response to Message 7706.  

106...

Let's say there's already 105 left - one position you've just closed :o)

There is a unique chance to close GFN-14 in a couple of days
The project is in its finishing spurt, and the participants are rushing to complete the statistics.
Especially since this little thing, even on a weak GPU, can be done in several threads

You also had enough power to "open" anaconda stats on the GPUgrid, so you can get hours on all the other GPU-projects.

A few rare applications have a chance too, if you hunt them down - minecraft, gerasim, sixtracktest
Perhaps there will be new test runs on gaia@home during the transition to catalog #3
And maybe DENIS will come back to life

So I wish you a good hunt ;)


Brought it back to 104, with a good chance to get it to 102 even -but I can't get any lower as there are 102 entries in red below 100 hours.
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Message 7965 - Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 11:26:21 UTC

I hadn't even noticed the GFN-14 was out until a few days ago, but I have managed to pick up enough of them to get the 100 Hr's for a new App ... :)
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