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Message 7400 - Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 18:22:20 UTC

Something I had forgot about & meant to ask about is if I shut BOINC Down on my Linux Box I have to restart the Box in order to get Linux to run again. If I don't restart the Box all BOINC does is say it's trying to connect to a local host or the local host.

Is this normal or is there something I should be doing to prevent from having to restart the box & lose any work in progress to get BOINC to run again ... Thanks

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Message 7401 - Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 18:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 7400.

Something I had forgot about & meant to ask about is if I shut BOINC Down on my Linux Box I have to restart the Box in order to get Linux to run again. If I don't restart the Box all BOINC does is say it's trying to connect to a local host or the local host.

Is this normal or is there something I should be doing to prevent from having to restart the box & lose any work in progress to get BOINC to run again ... Thanks


(exact command might vary depending on your distro)

sudo service boinc-client start
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Message 7402 - Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 19:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 7401.

Something I had forgot about & meant to ask about is if I shut BOINC Down on my Linux Box I have to restart the Box in order to get Linux to run again. If I don't restart the Box all BOINC does is say it's trying to connect to a local host or the local host.

Is this normal or is there something I should be doing to prevent from having to restart the box & lose any work in progress to get BOINC to run again ... Thanks


(exact command might vary depending on your distro)

sudo service boinc-client start


I'm running Ubuntu 18.04

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Message 7403 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 0:44:59 UTC
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Are you running BOINCtasks? If so:
choose 'file' - 'select computer', type 'localhost', give the boinctasks password you have chosen when you decided to run all your computers through BOINCtasks and... -you are connected.
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Message 7404 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 2:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 7403.

Are you running BOINCtasks? If so:
choose 'file' - 'select computer', type 'localhost', give the boinctasks password you have chosen when you decided to run all your computers through BOINCtasks and... -you are connected.


No not running it on the Linux Box, didn't know you could, it doesn't come up under the software when you do a search for it ?

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Message 7405 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 4:13:49 UTC - in response to Message 7404.
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https://efmer.com/boinctasks/

BoincTasks the visual BOINC interface, the ideal way to view your BOINC tasks.
BoincTasks can be used to manage a single computer locally or all your computers remotely.
Handles even larger amounts of Tasks/Wu well, and makes it ideal for computers with GPU.
Supports an unlimited number of remote computers.

BoincTasks only for Windows, a convenient replacement for the standard Boinc manager.
You can monitor all your tasks from one point.
It is especially convenient if you run Linux box in headless mode
(here a bunch of BoincTasks + putty - BOINC manager and Linux management)

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Message 7406 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 6:52:39 UTC

I know what BoincTasks is I've been using it for years with my Windows Box's but never have been able to monitor a Linux Box with it for whatever reason.

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Message 7407 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 7:14:46 UTC - in response to Message 7406.

if you have a dedicated linux box for Boink,
then it is better to set up control from the main working PC for the headless box
than to waste Linux resources for the GUI

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Message 7409 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 10:06:44 UTC

Linux Blows as far as I'm concerned, unless your some sort of Linux Genius it's a nightmare to try & get anything done with BOINC. I can't change permissions or ownership or even uninstall it. I used the Software package to install BOINC but now if I bring it up in the Software Package no such package exits is all it tells me.

I've yet to find any commands that actually work for me, the terminal just tells me no such command or no such file so nothing ever gets done that I want to do ...

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Message 7410 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 18:36:07 UTC
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Okay I formatted & re-installed Linux, then I installed BOINC in the Home Folder from the desktop so I would have ownership of BOINC. That went well so I installed the lib files & that seemed to go okay too.

Now I need a command to start the BOINC Manager or do I have to install that from the software package ??? The command that the terminal gives me to start BOINC doesn't work ? (cd "/home/steve/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@) ...

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Message 7412 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 21:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 7410.
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Now I need a command to start the BOINC Manager or do I have to install that from the software package ??? The command that the terminal gives me to start BOINC doesn't work ? (cd "/home/steve/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@) ...

I also use Ubuntu 18.04, but as OS for VirtualBox under Windows.
It was way easier to install BOINC completely over the software library, since you can start it up almost like on Windows then - in that way Ubuntu 18.04 is very user-friendly. (compared to the openSuse distros I used before)
No commands necessary most of the time.
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Message 7413 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 22:00:05 UTC

I have it running again, about all I need is some command to take ownership of the boinc-client files/folder so I can change a few things in the cc_config & remote Host file ... I've tried all the ones I found doing a google search & none work ...

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Message 7414 - Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 22:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 7410.
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You need:
- 2 main packages (+ dependencies)

apt-get update
apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager

- there are special packages for working with GPU + drivers and libraries, for example
apt install nvidia-drivers-410
apt-get install ocl-icd-libopencl1
apt-get install boinc-client-nvidia-cuda boinc-client-opencl nvidia-modprobe

- enable 32 bit support for old projects like climate + special packages for individual projects
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get install libc6-i386
apt-get install pcitools lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++

(all commands on behalf of the root or via sudo)

it is enough to be the owner of the working folder - all the necessary files are there (cc_config & remote host file )
(change of owner - "sudo chown steve /home/steve/BOINC")
run boinc in this folder
/usr/bin/boinc --dir /home/steve/BOINC --daemon --redirectio --allow_remote_gui_rpc --allow_multiple_clients

keys "--allow" can be added to the cc_config

maybe other advanced Linux users will add or correct if I'm wrong about something

PS During installation, you can create a boinc user and work with it
or afterwards, on behalf of the root, change (set) his password and log in to the system

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Message 7416 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 0:32:23 UTC - in response to Message 7413.

I have it running again, about all I need is some command to take ownership of the boinc-client files/folder so I can change a few things in the cc_config & remote Host file ... I've tried all the ones I found doing a google search & none work ...


I'd guess ya just need to sudo or its due to installing it in home folder.

I use 18.04 on all remote PCs and monitor Linux from Windows BoincTasks. All have multiple clients and 2nd+ clients are stated via command. Default client/port start up automatically. Sudo is just needed to go deeper into projects folder. /var/lib/boinc-client where cc_config is at should be accessable w/o sudo.

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Message 7418 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 1:10:32 UTC - in response to Message 7406.
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I know what BoincTasks is I've been using it for years with my Windows Box's but never have been able to monitor a Linux Box with it for whatever reason.


You have to make the files remote_hosts.cfg and gui_rpc_auth.cfg on each remote computer (in /var/lib/boinc-client/ , where the BOINC user directory files are -by default, unless you change it to the 'home' directory) , that's all. I can even control Android 4 boxes through Boinctasks.
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Message 7419 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 1:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 7416.

/var/lib/boinc-client where cc_config is at should be accessable w/o sudo.


Just plain forget to be able to add or edit something there without being either root or using sudo
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Message 7421 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 2:10:38 UTC

"sudo chown steve /home/steve/BOINC" did seem to get me Ownership of the BOINC home folder I can read & write the files in the BOINC home folder now.

The cc_config & remote host file are located in the var/lib/boinc-client folder or something like that & I still don't have Ownership on them, can't mess with it right now or till morning. The PC is located in the room across from where my wife sleeps & I don't want to disturb her ...

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Message 7424 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 9:31:41 UTC - in response to Message 7421.

Still can't get ownership of the boinc files in the var/lib directory, this is what I get when I try several commands

steve@HP-Z420-WorkStation1:~$ sudo chown steve /var/lib/steve/boinc
[sudo] password for steve:
chown: cannot access '/var/lib/steve/boinc': No such file or directory
steve@HP-Z420-WorkStation1:~$ sudo chown steve /var/lib/boinc
steve@HP-Z420-WorkStation1:~$ sudo chown steve /var/lib/boinc-client

Those 2 commands go thru but do nothing, still don't have ownership when I check the permissions of the 2 directories ...

steve@HP-Z420-WorkStation1:~$ sudo chown steve /var/lib/boinc
steve@HP-Z420-WorkStation1:~$ sudo chown steve /var/lib/boinc-client

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Message 7425 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 9:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 7418.

You have to make the files remote_hosts.cfg and gui_rpc_auth.cfg on each remote computer (in /var/lib/boinc-client/ , where the BOINC user directory files are -by default, unless you change it to the 'home' directory) , that's all. I can even control Android 4 boxes through Boinctasks.


Yes I know I have to make or change those 2 files to Monitor the Box on my Windows Box with BoincTasks but unless I get ownership of the files I can't do anything with them ...

I've tried to move the files to the "home" directory but with no success so far ...

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Message 7426 - Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 10:14:35 UTC

root should own those files by default:
ca-bundle.cry
cc_config.xml
global_prefs_override.xml
gui_rpc_auth.cfg
remote_host.cfg

The remaining files are owned by the boinc user.

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